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Mount Rushmore (looks like it's going to kick off
at 12:43 7 Jul 2020

None of which I made.
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Mount Rushmore (looks like it's going to kick off
at 12:30 7 Jul 2020

I gave you a credible source. You are a tool. I teach people properly. How to read and interpret the scientific literature (and where relevant legislation) Not to pick up a crappy internet page, to understand what evidence-based understanding is. I teach microbiology, immunology and veterinary public health. Most seem satisfied. Most students who undertake a research project in my group get a 2:1 or first for their project. We take time to ensure they do their best regardless of any background. I have supervised 10 PhD students who have gone onto varied careers from policy advisor, state veterinary services (APHA) to industry and academia.
I have worked in many counties. Published many research papers, book chapters and even phone app content. I works with several industrial partners and charities.

Don't tell me what I am.. I have achieved a lot for an illegitimate valleys boy.
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Sky tv, internet and telephone packages
at 12:10 7 Jul 2020

I have the same and a landline with them-this has become more expensive (across all providers to be fair) but pay £101 a month. At renewal I can usually get a decent discount
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Mount Rushmore (looks like it's going to kick off
at 10:45 7 Jul 2020

1. It states it is an opinion. Not use some dodgy intent source to pretend it is an intellectual argument
2. I never stated anything about Islamic civilisation in the first place. I merely stated scientific and medical advances were ahead of the West at that point and informed (usually uncredited) a
Large part of future understanding in the West.

There is absolutely no point in a reasonable discussion with you.
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Mount Rushmore (looks like it's going to kick off
at 10:34 7 Jul 2020

I said I had not watched the series- just said it was there.

Islamic society has probably done more to advance civilisation than we had by the. 13 th century. Western Christianity was then the dominant force of the world. Soon it will be China and India.
That’s just an opinion. I also have the opinion you are a bigot and narcissist, but I don’t know that either. I could stick a video on you tube or make a wiki entry though. And this is the point you fail to see.
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at 10:04 7 Jul 2020

My son was studying this in Religious Studies so got me a bit curious as knew little beyond vaccines (which is well known in science). Came across a review in a medical journal:

https://www.amjmedsci.org/article/S0002-9629(17)30157-X/fulltext

You will need library access to see it (Elsevier paywall)

But there is a nice recent popular article too:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/magazine/2016/11-12/muslim-medicine-s


These are both based on the available arabic texts.

I've not watched this but there is also Jim Al-Khalil's BBC documentary series which may be on the iPlayer. He is usually good value (for a physicist-less annoying than Cox at least)


Numerals may have been developed in India, but their widespread use was developed by islamic mathematicians who introduced them into Western culture. We still call them Arabic of course.
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Mount Rushmore (looks like it's going to kick off
at 09:27 7 Jul 2020

If you think scientific research works through 'academic texts' based around an individual you are even more deluded than I thought. Books mean very little in science beyond undergraduate studies, they are a nice thing to be involved with and great for a bit of hubris. Other than a few huge reference works or the legendary "Maniatis' molecular biology handbook published by Cold Spring Harbor Labs, it uses primary publication-scientific papers that are peer-reviewed. We are judged (and will be across the UK in REF next year) on quality (0-4*) and within our institutions on numbers of these publications and research grant income. We are also assessed now on research impact-how the work we do plays a role in society, the economy, professional practice etc.

Evolutionary biology has moved on a bit since Darwin's time, and although his ideas around natural selection are still the basis of understanding, it would be more regarded as a valuable historical piece these days. You may see it cited in the introduction of a PhD, but not in the main literature now. Just to be clear
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Mount Rushmore (looks like it's going to kick off
at 08:47 7 Jul 2020

The reliability of the source is vital. You clearly fail to understand this. Yes, videos may be very good. A Wikipedia entry may be excellent. However, these are not considered to be a source in academia or industry as they have no filter, review and are often very subjective.

Use these sources with me and you get marked down in assessment unless you state these are an opinion. That’s what you and others on here don’t get -
They are not reliable.
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Mount Rushmore (looks like it's going to kick off
at 07:30 7 Jul 2020

I take it 7th cavalry or it’s support. Or Cheyenne? I could see that too. Could see you riding bare chested through Cimla on your Palomino mustang
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Mount Rushmore (looks like it's going to kick off
at 07:27 7 Jul 2020

Wikipedia and videos are not evidence. Anyone can post these. They often have no basis in fact. Plenty of medical discoveries in the 16th to early 19th century were already known in older Islamic science. Not being in a modern European language or Latin left them in Arabic texts. As I said,
Much like Western science until the reformation, they study had limitations as work was always in the context of the Quran.
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at 23:08 6 Jul 2020

I’m not going to argue about economics- not my area, though clearly there was capitalism before Britain became any sort of power in the late 16th century.

But you are way off with science and maths. For starters we use Arabic numerals which have allowed more complex arithmetic. Islamic astronomy was several centuries ahead of Western observation. Islamic science was the first to truly use evidence based medicine and described the circulatory system several hundred years ahead of Harvey. Arabs practiced what we would now recognise as A form of vaccination based , as was Jenner’s use of cowpox, around observation of protection and exposure.
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Mount Rushmore (looks like it's going to kick off
at 18:35 6 Jul 2020

The science is a good point. There were significant advances in Arabic science and maths that we only reached in the 17th century. It sort of came to a halt as everything was explained in relation To the Quran and sort of lost itself in not wanting to cause contradictions.
Much as science and Christianity prior to the reformation
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Mount Rushmore (looks like it's going to kick off
at 18:21 6 Jul 2020

Only been to Alcatraz, but the evening trip with the audio guide is truly excellent.
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Left wing propaganda camps beg Boris for bail out
at 18:14 6 Jul 2020

Right side of the country but much further north. May not be same country much longer either
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Left wing propaganda camps beg Boris for bail out
at 18:04 6 Jul 2020

This is all true. There is an issue over the sector size and the loss of HNC/HND approaches which suit some area more. The reality is few people study something pointless. But as you say there has become an expectation to ‘go to uni’ which means people do when they really are not suited. We (universities) are guilty in their recruitment.
Between external examining and taking my daughter to Open Days I have seen a lot of good and bad practice in the last few years. Generally I have been most impressed by the 1960s non-Russell Group Campus-based places. Trying to read and assess a pretty poor PhD thesis at the moment. Needs a lot of work- from a ‘top’ university
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Left wing propaganda camps beg Boris for bail out
at 17:45 6 Jul 2020

Of course not- plenty of examples of the reverse. I remember a university friend (from Cambridge) who as a bit obsessed with the Land Economy students in the Varsity Match. He went in 1988 and was highly amused that 10 of the Cambridge squad were on the Land Economy Degree. Not sure if it is as true now with professionalism.

I think the RAC would be living hell! I should have said Harper Adams which is much better.
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Left wing propaganda camps beg Boris for bail out
at 17:40 6 Jul 2020

Probably not. More to make a point that many degrees (indeed most in Russell Group) are not vocational or directly useful for most people in employment. More on the assumption that ‘new’ universities are just running media studies or peace studies degrees. I am sure there are good people who have read Land Economy- have just been told by several reasonable sources it is also populated by the less academically minded too.
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Left wing propaganda camps beg Boris for bail out
at 17:34 6 Jul 2020

It’s the course all the sportsmen -for the rugby team and rowing eights in Cambridge - not too taxing. Normally done as a masters!
There are ‘real’ agricultural economics degrees too. Places like Royal Agricultural College.
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Mount Rushmore (looks like it's going to kick off
at 15:09 6 Jul 2020

Aye-bloody Tories eh!
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Mount Rushmore (looks like it's going to kick off
at 15:05 6 Jul 2020

Holds no weight for me Kerouac-i certainly have a neutural view on Israel and Palestine. I support the right for Israel to exist as a state, but also the rights of the Palestinians. I do not support the actions of Hamas nor the rights to annex the West Bank.

I, unlike other academics, do not boycott Israel. Having been there its not a place I overly liked, but found interesting. It's so small with everything on top of each other. You can see how it all kicks off. Out of Friday prayers. Chuck a few rocks down to the Wailing Wall. IDS steams in and beat a few lads up. Both at fault.
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