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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? 10:09 - Dec 17 with 828 viewsA_Fans_Dad

It is obvious from history and the comments on here that the Welsh voters have a long, proud & principled history of voting Labour.
However at this GE it also became obvious that Labour were not going to win.
Should most of the Welsh voters therefore have gone against their principles and voted Conservative, as anamethatic as that would be.
The reasons for doing so were twofold.
Which area of the country is Johnson going to woo in the future with goodies to try and keep their vote, Northern England who voted Conservative or south & mid Wales who tried to put Corbyn in.
When it became fairly obvious that Labour were going to lose why vote for the losing side who will not give Wales any meaningful voice in Parliament at all.
Many remainers on here have told brexiters that it would have been better to stay in the EU to change it from the inside.
Yet do not appear to see the same logic applied to Westminster.

The people of the north of England & north of Wales "lent" their votes to Johnson to punish labour for ignoring their will, can he bribe them enough to keep them.

Most of the Welsh were unable to sell their souls to the devil, even though it may have made more sense to do so, because Wales now faces at least another 4 years without much of a voice in Westminster except for Bridgend and the north.



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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 12:10 - Dec 17 with 747 viewsBest_loser

And that lot within the landsker line
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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 13:20 - Dec 17 with 678 viewsdickythorpe

When the swans are losing next , let's support the opposition

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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 13:31 - Dec 17 with 653 viewsBest_loser

Strong people can't be bought
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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 14:21 - Dec 17 with 612 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 13:31 - Dec 17 by Best_loser

Strong people can't be bought


That has worked out really well in the past.
Perhaps a paradigm shift is called for.
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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 14:23 - Dec 17 with 608 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 13:20 - Dec 17 by dickythorpe

When the swans are losing next , let's support the opposition


You equate control & wealth of your country with sport?
Are you real?
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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 18:08 - Dec 17 with 517 viewsBillyChong

You actually believe that Johnson will reward those areas?
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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 19:49 - Dec 17 with 481 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 18:08 - Dec 17 by BillyChong

You actually believe that Johnson will reward those areas?


If he is really serious in killing off Labour for the next 8 to 12 years how else could he achieve it?
Otherwise it returns to the status quo of very small majorties either way.
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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 19:55 - Dec 17 with 464 viewsDr_Winston

To get the best out of your elected officials you have to make them fear for their jobs. That goes for all of them, regardless of party. It does no good for parts of Wales who haven't had the best deals out of either Westminster or the Senedd to keep sending the same people there.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 19:56 - Dec 17 with 460 viewsbuilthjack

Mid Wales actually voted Tory. They canvassed heavily, telling farmers they would receive big subsidies whatever happens. Farmers like subsidies.

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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 19:58 - Dec 17 with 458 viewsexiledclaseboy

Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 19:55 - Dec 17 by Dr_Winston

To get the best out of your elected officials you have to make them fear for their jobs. That goes for all of them, regardless of party. It does no good for parts of Wales who haven't had the best deals out of either Westminster or the Senedd to keep sending the same people there.


A proper electoral system would go a long way towards sorting that out.

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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 20:09 - Dec 17 with 444 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 19:56 - Dec 17 by builthjack

Mid Wales actually voted Tory. They canvassed heavily, telling farmers they would receive big subsidies whatever happens. Farmers like subsidies.


You are correct, they were already tory from 2017.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2019/results/wales
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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 21:34 - Dec 17 with 375 viewsCatullus

Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 18:08 - Dec 17 by BillyChong

You actually believe that Johnson will reward those areas?


The Tories have never seen much point in helping Wales because we always voted Labour no matter what, maybe with this major shift things will change. Maybe Boris thinks he could woo South Wales too and kill Labour off as the official opposition, we'll see.

I won't hold my breath.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 22:32 - Dec 17 with 329 viewsKilkennyjack

Proud of Scotland and Wales for totally rejecting Boris.

Celtic nations never vote Tory.


‘Beware of the risen people’ ........🍀🇮🇪 💚 Dim byd grêt am brydain 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺

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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 22:38 - Dec 17 with 316 viewsHighjack

Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 22:32 - Dec 17 by Kilkennyjack

Proud of Scotland and Wales for totally rejecting Boris.

Celtic nations never vote Tory.



55% non SNP vote in Scotland .

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 22:46 - Dec 17 with 309 viewsmajorraglan

The easiest way for Boris and the Tories to perpetuate their grip on power is to allow the Scots to break away, that will wipe out 60 odd potential opposition MPs in one fell swoop. It would be difficult for Labour or any other party to beat the Tories then.
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Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 23:05 - Dec 17 with 300 viewsKilkennyjack

Did Welsh voters miss an opportunity at this GE? on 22:46 - Dec 17 by majorraglan

The easiest way for Boris and the Tories to perpetuate their grip on power is to allow the Scots to break away, that will wipe out 60 odd potential opposition MPs in one fell swoop. It would be difficult for Labour or any other party to beat the Tories then.


True, but the Unionist part of the Conservative and Unionist party means something fairly fundamental.

That said, both a free Scotland and a united Ireland are now both inevitable.
Then God help Wales....

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