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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections 18:55 - Dec 14 with 1395 viewsThrasher6

It's all about self interest...as opposed to the greater good. People are selfish...."what's in it for me" is always quoted...and it's spot on. I have had friends over the years....and I look at them...invariably with children..doing the "anything at all costs" road. It's society as we know it now. That is just the workplace...

And it's comical.....because they wont tell anyone...until they draw the curtain back in the polling booth....
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 19:13 - Dec 14 with 1002 viewsThrasher6

My grandfather and grandmother were fantastic people. Vince became a foreman in the mines at Ammanford and ran the Pick and Shovel...Ammanford Social Club...for many years. It was a sociallist club.....many miners fought with the International Brigade against Fascism in Spain. Their pictures were on the wall in the club.
My grandmother set up the Cooperative movement in the town...a means for people who couldnt afford it to get help with the basics. These two also spent their holidays educating themselves in summer schools. They were both working class. Boris couldn't even come close to them as people...they were people who were collectivist..."I do things...not for myself...but for the greater good"

And I am proud of them. Maybe we think a bit more about these people....they are the real inspiration. Not the vacuous nonsense we are confronted with.



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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 19:35 - Dec 14 with 951 viewsladyjack

Thatcher broke the mould what with selling the countries industries and housing stock off on the cheap as well as offering tax cuts at the expense welfare benefits and services and its continued ever since, Tony Blair never reversed it.
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 19:38 - Dec 14 with 946 viewsThrasher6

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 19:35 - Dec 14 by ladyjack

Thatcher broke the mould what with selling the countries industries and housing stock off on the cheap as well as offering tax cuts at the expense welfare benefits and services and its continued ever since, Tony Blair never reversed it.


It's actually about people....and how they think...
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 19:56 - Dec 14 with 913 viewsladyjack

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 19:38 - Dec 14 by Thrasher6

It's actually about people....and how they think...
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They voted for what they thought was best for themselves in Thatchers day and not what was best for society as a whole and it was the same on Thursday.
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 20:13 - Dec 14 with 895 viewstheloneranger

“PITY THE NATION”

Pity the nation whose people are sheep
And whose shepherds mislead them
Pity the nation whose leaders are liars
Whose sages are silenced
And whose bigots haunt the airwaves
Pity the nation that raises not its voice
Except to praise conquerors
And acclaim the bully as hero
And aims to rule the world
By force and by torture
Pity the nation that knows
No other language but its own
And no other culture but its own
Pity the nation whose breath is money
And sleeps the sleep of the too well fed
Pity the nation oh pity the people
who allow their rights to erode
and their freedoms to be washed away
My country, tears of thee
Sweet land of liberty!

"Lawrence Ferlinghetti"
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 20:14 - Dec 14 with 895 viewsThrasher6

You know what is comical: Most of us work with a group of people. They will think of themselves before any group collective. No crime in that...I understand it...but it's where we are going wrong as a society....those who go the c#nt route...do charity events....not because they care...but do so for social standing...THESE PEOPLE DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYBODY BUT THEMSELVES....

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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 20:25 - Dec 14 with 873 viewswestside

Brexit would never have happened without tabloid newspapers.

Election would never have happened in the first place without a spineless prime minister like cameron who was just an Eton elite and pr/marketing man . If John Smith hadn:t died.
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 21:16 - Dec 14 with 836 viewsKilkennyjack

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 19:13 - Dec 14 by Thrasher6

My grandfather and grandmother were fantastic people. Vince became a foreman in the mines at Ammanford and ran the Pick and Shovel...Ammanford Social Club...for many years. It was a sociallist club.....many miners fought with the International Brigade against Fascism in Spain. Their pictures were on the wall in the club.
My grandmother set up the Cooperative movement in the town...a means for people who couldnt afford it to get help with the basics. These two also spent their holidays educating themselves in summer schools. They were both working class. Boris couldn't even come close to them as people...they were people who were collectivist..."I do things...not for myself...but for the greater good"

And I am proud of them. Maybe we think a bit more about these people....they are the real inspiration. Not the vacuous nonsense we are confronted with.



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They sound fantastic people.
Their welsh values shine through.

That said, this tweet makes it very clear that Wales did not vote in the same manner as England.



Dont let people say that we did.

Feck Boris.

‘Beware of the risen people’ ........🍀🇮🇪 💚 Dim byd grêt am brydain 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺

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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 21:30 - Dec 14 with 818 viewsCatullus

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 21:16 - Dec 14 by Kilkennyjack

They sound fantastic people.
Their welsh values shine through.

That said, this tweet makes it very clear that Wales did not vote in the same manner as England.



Dont let people say that we did.

Feck Boris.


Labour, what a waste of time in Wales,

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2019/12/labours-record-wales-does

You like Adam Price don't you kilk? Well he lays bare Labours failings and remember, when we talk about Westminster undefunding Wales it was Drakeford (as Price points out) who negotiated the new, fairer deal.
Reading this column it was the best argument I'd seen for voting Plaid but it still wasn't enough.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 21:46 - Dec 14 with 794 viewsThrasher6

You sound like a vacuous moron....have no grasp of history...in a little bubble that is all about...the "I think..." tiresome people we see and hear all the time...that seem to think their opinion has any depth. It doesn't. Leave depth to us...

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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 21:51 - Dec 14 with 786 viewsCatullus

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 21:46 - Dec 14 by Thrasher6

You sound like a vacuous moron....have no grasp of history...in a little bubble that is all about...the "I think..." tiresome people we see and hear all the time...that seem to think their opinion has any depth. It doesn't. Leave depth to us...


Get your blood pressure checked out, you sound ready to pop.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 21:57 - Dec 14 with 773 viewsThrasher6

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 21:51 - Dec 14 by Catullus

Get your blood pressure checked out, you sound ready to pop.


Tory c@nt..and live with the word.You do not care about anybody but yourself...

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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:07 - Dec 14 with 757 viewsCatullus

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 21:57 - Dec 14 by Thrasher6

Tory c@nt..and live with the word.You do not care about anybody but yourself...


That post just proves how clueless you really are. Lay off the pop pal and think before you post.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:17 - Dec 14 with 746 viewsThrasher6

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:07 - Dec 14 by Catullus

That post just proves how clueless you really are. Lay off the pop pal and think before you post.


Arrogant....no surprise there...

And you know what. I bet you are exactly that. I rarely find Tories to be anything but self centered..
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:27 - Dec 14 with 725 viewsCatullus

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:17 - Dec 14 by Thrasher6

Arrogant....no surprise there...

And you know what. I bet you are exactly that. I rarely find Tories to be anything but self centered..
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No really, you are clueless, it's not arrogance. lets start with the Tory chunt thing.....tell me how you came to that conclusion?
Then tell me hwo you knwo I don't care about anyone else? Maybe I should be like some others and broadcast what I've done for charity, but I never did any of it for reward or to prove I'm a good person so no.
Maybe I should list all the things I've done to help neighbours and friends? Again no because I don't do it for recognition.

Something else I don't do is hurl mindless abuse at people I don't know but if you want to say it to my face just say the word. I'm not big or hard, nor am I looking for a fight but prove you are not just a p/ssed up keyboard warrior or stop your moaning.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:29 - Dec 14 with 720 viewsThrasher6

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:27 - Dec 14 by Catullus

No really, you are clueless, it's not arrogance. lets start with the Tory chunt thing.....tell me how you came to that conclusion?
Then tell me hwo you knwo I don't care about anyone else? Maybe I should be like some others and broadcast what I've done for charity, but I never did any of it for reward or to prove I'm a good person so no.
Maybe I should list all the things I've done to help neighbours and friends? Again no because I don't do it for recognition.

Something else I don't do is hurl mindless abuse at people I don't know but if you want to say it to my face just say the word. I'm not big or hard, nor am I looking for a fight but prove you are not just a p/ssed up keyboard warrior or stop your moaning.


But you voted Tory...why?

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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:33 - Dec 14 with 708 viewsThrasher6

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:29 - Dec 14 by Thrasher6

But you voted Tory...why?


"Labour ..what a waste of time in Wales"

You said that....and you don't expect people to get pissed off....arrogant piece of sh%t

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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:51 - Dec 14 with 688 viewsCatullus

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:33 - Dec 14 by Thrasher6

"Labour ..what a waste of time in Wales"

You said that....and you don't expect people to get pissed off....arrogant piece of sh%t


Ah so you are just a pissed up keyboard warrior who hasn't a clue, I knew you wouldn't have the bottle to say it to my face. Slagging off Labour doesn't make me a Tory, that is just a very stupid assumption.
On another thread warwick called me a sanctimonious tvvat for saying I would spoil my ballot because none of them are worth voting for. Labour are a waste of time and thousands of Labour voters across the UK agreed.

Goodnight kiddo.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:58 - Dec 14 with 681 viewsThrasher6

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:51 - Dec 14 by Catullus

Ah so you are just a pissed up keyboard warrior who hasn't a clue, I knew you wouldn't have the bottle to say it to my face. Slagging off Labour doesn't make me a Tory, that is just a very stupid assumption.
On another thread warwick called me a sanctimonious tvvat for saying I would spoil my ballot because none of them are worth voting for. Labour are a waste of time and thousands of Labour voters across the UK agreed.

Goodnight kiddo.


On a brain cells count.....I'd be ahead...

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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 23:31 - Dec 14 with 651 viewsjackrabbit

You’ve got to be n your 40s and 50s to remember the 1970s so I can excuse some young people being seduced by cuddly Corby and is promise of a bright new world order. Yeah you can excuse the kids. They weren’t around in the 70s. They don’t know any better. Communism is some vague topic in the history books. When I become PM, I’ll dictate that all school trips must be to former Soviet satellite states - Budapest, Prague, Warsaw, Sofia etc where pupils will talk to the local populace about the joys of living in a socialist utopia. Then they can talk to older people here about the 3 day week, unburied dead, mountains of rubbish In the streets, Bolshevik transport unions that regularly stopped people getting to work - oh hang on, they only need to talk to South West Trains passengers at this present time. No regular trains for 4 weeks due to the good ole RMT. Merry Christmas.
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 08:16 - Dec 15 with 552 viewsbennytheblue

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 23:31 - Dec 14 by jackrabbit

You’ve got to be n your 40s and 50s to remember the 1970s so I can excuse some young people being seduced by cuddly Corby and is promise of a bright new world order. Yeah you can excuse the kids. They weren’t around in the 70s. They don’t know any better. Communism is some vague topic in the history books. When I become PM, I’ll dictate that all school trips must be to former Soviet satellite states - Budapest, Prague, Warsaw, Sofia etc where pupils will talk to the local populace about the joys of living in a socialist utopia. Then they can talk to older people here about the 3 day week, unburied dead, mountains of rubbish In the streets, Bolshevik transport unions that regularly stopped people getting to work - oh hang on, they only need to talk to South West Trains passengers at this present time. No regular trains for 4 weeks due to the good ole RMT. Merry Christmas.


The young now don’t realise how bad unemployment was, at least a lot of people work now in some form? All this nhs is for sale bollox, it just won’t happen, no government will sanction it, it would see them off. It was a poor show from labour to insinuate it, I quite like corbyn but the party behind him are a disgrace. A bit like the lefties I know, either still living at home with mum and dad, in there 40’s, no kids, never paid a mortgage, artist types, or done way too many drugs in the 90’s and say they can’t handle life and are onthe sick permanently.....clueless
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 08:35 - Dec 15 with 549 viewsDr_Winston

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 23:31 - Dec 14 by jackrabbit

You’ve got to be n your 40s and 50s to remember the 1970s so I can excuse some young people being seduced by cuddly Corby and is promise of a bright new world order. Yeah you can excuse the kids. They weren’t around in the 70s. They don’t know any better. Communism is some vague topic in the history books. When I become PM, I’ll dictate that all school trips must be to former Soviet satellite states - Budapest, Prague, Warsaw, Sofia etc where pupils will talk to the local populace about the joys of living in a socialist utopia. Then they can talk to older people here about the 3 day week, unburied dead, mountains of rubbish In the streets, Bolshevik transport unions that regularly stopped people getting to work - oh hang on, they only need to talk to South West Trains passengers at this present time. No regular trains for 4 weeks due to the good ole RMT. Merry Christmas.


There's a fair point in there.

When I was in school there was, quite rightly, a lot of study about Nazi Germany. There was not a peep about Communism, an equally murderous philosophy.

It might have changed, but perhaps the emphasis should be on totalitarianism itself rather than one aspect of it. Perhaps then more kids would come out of school dubious about extremism in all its forms.

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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 08:58 - Dec 15 with 528 viewsWarwickHunt

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:51 - Dec 14 by Catullus

Ah so you are just a pissed up keyboard warrior who hasn't a clue, I knew you wouldn't have the bottle to say it to my face. Slagging off Labour doesn't make me a Tory, that is just a very stupid assumption.
On another thread warwick called me a sanctimonious tvvat for saying I would spoil my ballot because none of them are worth voting for. Labour are a waste of time and thousands of Labour voters across the UK agreed.

Goodnight kiddo.


I’d happily call you a sanctimonious twát to your face.
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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 09:10 - Dec 15 with 511 viewsepaul

Keep up the good work Thrasher with you all the way comrade, f uck the tories

The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day The b*stards are coming back though

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It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 11:31 - Dec 15 with 434 viewsA_Fans_Dad

It's brutal...but after 30 years of elections on 22:33 - Dec 14 by Thrasher6

"Labour ..what a waste of time in Wales"

You said that....and you don't expect people to get pissed off....arrogant piece of sh%t


You obviously have reading comprehension problems.

He was summarising the Article, this is a quote from the article.
"Labour are not part of the solution in Wales, they are a source of the problem. "

So as a staunch labour supporter how do interpret that comment from the opposition and if you disagree explain what labour has done for Wales ouside the Cardiff bubble.

I also came from a labour family and voted labour until Balir got in and have not voted for them since. I am in no way a Conservative.

The major problem with MPs today is that they are paid too much and make to much in graft due to their positions.
It is no longer a "cause" it is now just a very easy very well paid job with brilliant pensions.
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