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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam 20:13 - Oct 1 with 5465 viewsLohengrin

Well, well worth your time. Brilliant documentary of an absolute shambles.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b062mbng/storyville-last-days-in-vietnam

Edit: I can’t recommend this highly enough if the film has piqued your interest. I romped through it in a couple of sittings, it’s likely to remain The standard text for generations to come. Superb!

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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 20:40 - Oct 1 with 2641 viewsHumpty

Excellent documentary, seen it a while back.

I'll get the book. Ta.
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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 21:02 - Oct 1 with 2616 viewsohsusannah

Hastings book "Catastrophe" is a must read for analysts of the Great War.

I ll get this book primarily as the conflict defined my teen years
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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 21:28 - Oct 1 with 2593 viewsLohengrin

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 20:40 - Oct 1 by Humpty

Excellent documentary, seen it a while back.

I'll get the book. Ta.


£15 in Tesco, mate. I don’t know if they had marked it up incorrectly, the jacket price was £30!

Get Michael Palin’s ‘Erebus’ too if you’re feeling flush. That’s a fantastic read, it really is.


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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 21:30 - Oct 1 with 2589 viewsPegojack

Watched a ten part series on Vietnam on PBS America recently, supposed to be the definitive tv history of the conflict. It was superb. Reminded me of so much I'd forgotten, living through it as a teenager in Britain.
Sorry, don't have any linkys or anything but I'm sure you Google experts can reference it. I can't recommend it highly enough, it was like the Vietnam version of tbe World at War, very balanced and with eye witness accounts from actual participants on all sides. And a lot of what was going on politically in the USA, of course.
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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 21:34 - Oct 1 with 2584 viewsLohengrin

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 21:30 - Oct 1 by Pegojack

Watched a ten part series on Vietnam on PBS America recently, supposed to be the definitive tv history of the conflict. It was superb. Reminded me of so much I'd forgotten, living through it as a teenager in Britain.
Sorry, don't have any linkys or anything but I'm sure you Google experts can reference it. I can't recommend it highly enough, it was like the Vietnam version of tbe World at War, very balanced and with eye witness accounts from actual participants on all sides. And a lot of what was going on politically in the USA, of course.
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The Ken Burns series, Senor?

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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 21:36 - Oct 1 with 2582 viewsPegojack

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 21:34 - Oct 1 by Lohengrin

The Ken Burns series, Senor?


Si, si, exactamente.
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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 21:37 - Oct 1 with 2579 viewsjacktar

I caught Max Hastings on Jeremy Vine Show on BBC Radio2 a few days ago. Fascinating interview and strong words from a man who was reporting in the thick of things at the time.
I've not read much on the Vietnam war and despite seeing many of the films made of the conflict and some vague recollections as a youngster, as to what was happening out there at the time, I have little knowledge of what brought about what Hastings describes as "an epic tragedy" .
I will certainly watch the documentary and hope to get hold of the book.
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We shouldn't all be tarred with the same brush you know!

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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 21:42 - Oct 1 with 2552 viewsohsusannah

He s very knowledgable
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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 22:02 - Oct 1 with 2514 viewsHumpty

Flicking through the channels one night I came across a film just starting called Hearts and Minds, a 1974 documentary about Vietnam. Absolutely brilliant.



Not exactly balanced as it is pretty much an anti war film.

It's available on Youtube.



The scene where the US commander in Vietnam, General Westmoreland gives his view on "the Oriental" is chilling.

I highly recommend.
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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 22:11 - Oct 1 with 2503 viewsLohengrin

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 22:02 - Oct 1 by Humpty

Flicking through the channels one night I came across a film just starting called Hearts and Minds, a 1974 documentary about Vietnam. Absolutely brilliant.



Not exactly balanced as it is pretty much an anti war film.

It's available on Youtube.



The scene where the US commander in Vietnam, General Westmoreland gives his view on "the Oriental" is chilling.

I highly recommend.


I’ll watch that in the morning, Hump. Nice one.

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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 22:18 - Oct 1 with 2494 viewsHumpty

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 22:11 - Oct 1 by Lohengrin

I’ll watch that in the morning, Hump. Nice one.


Like I said, it's not balanced and doesn't pretend to be. Vietnam was such a f*cking disaster I don't think it matters.
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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 11:05 - Oct 2 with 2341 viewsnicky

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 21:36 - Oct 1 by Pegojack

Si, si, exactamente.
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that was one of the best documentary series the BBC has ever put out. unmissable.
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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 11:37 - Oct 2 with 2315 viewstrampie

Yanks were embarrassed by a non league team, Ho Chi Minh proved himself to be one of the best players of all time.

Premier League you're having a laugh, Premier League you're having a laugh.

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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 12:01 - Oct 2 with 2304 viewsCaptain_Sham

Loh you may like this. 10plus hours on Netflix. Its a stunning piece of work.

https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-vietnam-war/home/

Ok pls ignore, I just read the whole thread. Ps the BBC cut half of the documentary out when they aired it.
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Its just a ride.

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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 12:37 - Oct 2 with 2276 viewsHumpty

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 21:28 - Oct 1 by Lohengrin

£15 in Tesco, mate. I don’t know if they had marked it up incorrectly, the jacket price was £30!

Get Michael Palin’s ‘Erebus’ too if you’re feeling flush. That’s a fantastic read, it really is.



Palin's book is Book of the Week on Radio 4.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0000m7d

I'll give that a listen.
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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 15:44 - Oct 2 with 2220 viewsohsusannah

Thought provoking Vietnam is now a tourist destination .

Beautiful
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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 17:25 - Oct 2 with 2199 viewsDr_Winston

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 12:01 - Oct 2 by Captain_Sham

Loh you may like this. 10plus hours on Netflix. Its a stunning piece of work.

https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-vietnam-war/home/

Ok pls ignore, I just read the whole thread. Ps the BBC cut half of the documentary out when they aired it.
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Didn't know the Beeb had edited it. I'll Netflix it and watch the whole thing.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 17:39 - Oct 2 with 2186 viewstrampie

The Communists won, the good guys beat the imperialists and their puppets, some stories do have a happy ending.

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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 18:33 - Oct 2 with 2168 viewsLohengrin

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 17:39 - Oct 2 by trampie

The Communists won, the good guys beat the imperialists and their puppets, some stories do have a happy ending.


Not for the poor bastards enslaved by communism they don’t.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 18:57 - Oct 2 with 2149 viewscontroversial_jack

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 17:39 - Oct 2 by trampie

The Communists won, the good guys beat the imperialists and their puppets, some stories do have a happy ending.


The Yanks have never defeated a communist force.
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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 18:58 - Oct 2 with 2143 viewstrampie

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 18:33 - Oct 2 by Lohengrin

Not for the poor bastards enslaved by communism they don’t.


Enslaved by the Communists you say, at least they let some of them go, like McCain, the capitalists just dropped napalm on children, blew the brains out of handcuffed prisoners in the street and their American friends burned villages and murdered raped and tortured women and children .
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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 19:04 - Oct 2 with 2129 viewsLohengrin

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 18:57 - Oct 2 by controversial_jack

The Yanks have never defeated a communist force.


I’d say winning the Cold War and stand watching as the Soviet Union broke apart would count, wouldn’t you?

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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 19:07 - Oct 2 with 2127 viewsLohengrin

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 18:58 - Oct 2 by trampie

Enslaved by the Communists you say, at least they let some of them go, like McCain, the capitalists just dropped napalm on children, blew the brains out of handcuffed prisoners in the street and their American friends burned villages and murdered raped and tortured women and children .
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That’s the thing about civil wars, Tramp: they are not terribly civilised.

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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 19:19 - Oct 2 with 2114 viewsLohengrin

Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 17:25 - Oct 2 by Dr_Winston

Didn't know the Beeb had edited it. I'll Netflix it and watch the whole thing.


It was probably just edited to take out the gorier footage so the Beeb was able to air episodes before the watershed, Doc.

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Storyville: Last Days in Vietnam on 19:20 - Oct 2 with 2113 viewspikeypaul

To think it could have all ended in 1968 if Nixon had not sabotaged the Paris peace talks the week before he got elected.

The bastawd made sure the war continued just so he could get into the White House.

The blood of 100,000s on his hands.

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