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1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

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The Countdown begins. on 18:22 - Dec 19 with 518 viewsswanjackal

Now I am not a fan of Corbyn in the slightest, but whether it's "people" or "woman", I don't really see the issue here. It's odd that the actual slur of being called "stupid" is overlooked in another bout of outrage olympics. Also, for me, surely "people" would be worse than "woman" as it targets more than one person,

I'm assuming May "identifies" as a woman, and her recent performance has definitely raised questions about her cognition.

Be interesting to see, if he did say "woman", how Abbott reacts after her recent call for tightening of rules on "misogyny" on some platforms.

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The Countdown begins. on 18:25 - Dec 19 with 512 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 17:03 - Dec 19 by londonlisa2001

Dame Evelyn Glennie was on Radio 2 this afternoon and said he said stupid woman.

Given she’s the most astonishing lip reader I’ve ever met, I’m going with her.

Having said that, as I said, it really doesn’t matter. I’m far more concerned with the utter incompetence shown on both sides of the house than this nonsense.


out of curiosity, how many lip readers have you met?
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The Countdown begins. on 18:32 - Dec 19 with 500 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 18:25 - Dec 19 by Jango

out of curiosity, how many lip readers have you met?


We are all lip readers.

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The Countdown begins. on 18:38 - Dec 19 with 485 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 18:07 - Dec 19 by Highjack

Was she already on there in her official capacity as excellent and talented musician or did the Beeb just drag in the nearest famous deaf person to tell us what corbyn said?


Nah, she was already scheduled to be on and they showed her the footage (while she was waiting to go on and before she knew anything about it) and asked her what he said, and she said ‘stupid woman’.

To be fair, stupid woman is the obvious reaction to May saying something you believe to be stupid, not stupid people. But it doesn’t matter anyway.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:40 - Dec 19 with 480 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 18:22 - Dec 19 by swanjackal

Now I am not a fan of Corbyn in the slightest, but whether it's "people" or "woman", I don't really see the issue here. It's odd that the actual slur of being called "stupid" is overlooked in another bout of outrage olympics. Also, for me, surely "people" would be worse than "woman" as it targets more than one person,

I'm assuming May "identifies" as a woman, and her recent performance has definitely raised questions about her cognition.

Be interesting to see, if he did say "woman", how Abbott reacts after her recent call for tightening of rules on "misogyny" on some platforms.


Exactly. The outrage from a party that a few days ago reinstated the whip to two actual misogynistic a*seholes is ridiculous.

Edited to add - btw - Abbott gets some truly disgusting misogynistic abuse on social media pretty constantly. So do many other female MPs. If you personally don’t regard this as misogynistic (as it is not) then her reaction to this should rightly be to ignore it. Doesn’t change the validity of her suggesting that the abuse she receives should be treated more seriously.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:45 - Dec 19 with 473 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 18:25 - Dec 19 by Jango

out of curiosity, how many lip readers have you met?


If you mean how many people have I met who are deaf and lip read, a few. One of my best mates has a family member who is profoundly deaf and lip reads.

Also had a friend in school who was deaf.

I’ve done a couple of concerts with Evelyn Glennie and she’s able to lip read the conductor at normal talking speed from the back of the orchestra.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:51 - Dec 19 with 465 viewsHighjack

We all have a natural aptitude for lip reading. It’s a vital part of communication. This is why we look at people who are speaking.

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The Countdown begins. on 18:53 - Dec 19 with 451 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 18:51 - Dec 19 by Highjack

We all have a natural aptitude for lip reading. It’s a vital part of communication. This is why we look at people who are speaking.


Its also why it’s harder to hear what people are saying when it’s dark and you can’t see their face.

Hearing people generally don’t have the same level of competence as deaf people though.
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The Countdown begins. on 18:55 - Dec 19 with 458 viewsBytholWyn

Forensic lip-reader Jessica Rees told the Mirror: "It’s very clear if you lipread him he’s saying “stupid people”. Even if someone who's day job is to lipread hadn't said that. I'd trust my judgement on this. Try saying the word "woman" without pursing your lips. Not possible. And Corbyn doesn't purse his lips.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:00 - Dec 19 with 441 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 18:45 - Dec 19 by londonlisa2001

If you mean how many people have I met who are deaf and lip read, a few. One of my best mates has a family member who is profoundly deaf and lip reads.

Also had a friend in school who was deaf.

I’ve done a couple of concerts with Evelyn Glennie and she’s able to lip read the conductor at normal talking speed from the back of the orchestra.


I’ve honestly never met a deaf person. He definitely says woman though.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:04 - Dec 19 with 431 viewsHighjack

The Countdown begins. on 18:55 - Dec 19 by BytholWyn

Forensic lip-reader Jessica Rees told the Mirror: "It’s very clear if you lipread him he’s saying “stupid people”. Even if someone who's day job is to lipread hadn't said that. I'd trust my judgement on this. Try saying the word "woman" without pursing your lips. Not possible. And Corbyn doesn't purse his lips.


His eyes move around the whole front bench too. He’s definitely addressing more than one person.

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The Countdown begins. on 19:04 - Dec 19 with 421 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 19:00 - Dec 19 by Jango

I’ve honestly never met a deaf person. He definitely says woman though.
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Really? There were quite a few kids at Olchfa when I was at school who were deaf.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:16 - Dec 19 with 410 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 18:55 - Dec 19 by BytholWyn

Forensic lip-reader Jessica Rees told the Mirror: "It’s very clear if you lipread him he’s saying “stupid people”. Even if someone who's day job is to lipread hadn't said that. I'd trust my judgement on this. Try saying the word "woman" without pursing your lips. Not possible. And Corbyn doesn't purse his lips.


And they’ve had four independent lip reading experts on Sky that say he said woman.

Shows that all media can find people that will swear blind what their own political position is.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:17 - Dec 19 with 419 viewsJango

The Countdown begins. on 19:04 - Dec 19 by londonlisa2001

Really? There were quite a few kids at Olchfa when I was at school who were deaf.


Honestly. When you said about her being the best you’ve ever met it dawned on me that I’ve never personally come into contact with a deaf person.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:22 - Dec 19 with 402 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 19:17 - Dec 19 by Jango

Honestly. When you said about her being the best you’ve ever met it dawned on me that I’ve never personally come into contact with a deaf person.


I’ve just had a vague recollection that Olchfa is the school in Swansea that children who are deaf or hearing impaired from all over Swansea go to, which would explain it.
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The Countdown begins. on 19:36 - Dec 19 with 394 viewsunion_jack

The Countdown begins. on 19:04 - Dec 19 by londonlisa2001

Really? There were quite a few kids at Olchfa when I was at school who were deaf.


I think I was one of them.

Actually, no, I just didn't listen!

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The Countdown begins. on 19:46 - Dec 19 with 383 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Commons was at its most embarrassing today. We’re three months away from the biggest change in this country for generations and they spent two hours arguing about the nature of a fairly lame insult.

For what it’s worth they had two lip readers on 5Live earlier, one of whom saw “woman” while the other saw “people”. Only Corbyn and those in the immediate vicinity actually know what he said. Personally, I don’t give a shit. There are way bigger issues facing parliament and the country. The faux outrage from the famously inclusive amd progressive Tory backbenches was a true sight to behold, mind you.

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The Countdown begins. on 19:58 - Dec 19 with 363 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 19:46 - Dec 19 by exiledclaseboy

The Commons was at its most embarrassing today. We’re three months away from the biggest change in this country for generations and they spent two hours arguing about the nature of a fairly lame insult.

For what it’s worth they had two lip readers on 5Live earlier, one of whom saw “woman” while the other saw “people”. Only Corbyn and those in the immediate vicinity actually know what he said. Personally, I don’t give a shit. There are way bigger issues facing parliament and the country. The faux outrage from the famously inclusive amd progressive Tory backbenches was a true sight to behold, mind you.


Innit. It wasn’t long ago there was a Tory MP mouthing ‘bitch’ at Yvette Cooper. Which is actually misogynistic rather than this crap. There were clips of it again today because of this nonsense.

Equal nonsense of course, is the sight of Corbyn refuting the claims while surrounded on all sides by strategically placed female MPs. Farcical.

May is a stupid woman to be doing what she’s doing. Corbyn is a stupid man to be doing what he’s doing. They are surrounded by stupid people. Move on.
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The Countdown begins. on 20:02 - Dec 19 with 362 viewsPozuelosSideys

In the context of the situation too - stupid woman makes far more sense than stupid people.. he was clearly ruffled by her pantomime thing.

Dunno why theres so much hoohaa about it though. He should know better given the climate at the moment about gender equality. Just apologise and move on ffs

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The Countdown begins. on 20:03 - Dec 19 with 360 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 19:58 - Dec 19 by londonlisa2001

Innit. It wasn’t long ago there was a Tory MP mouthing ‘bitch’ at Yvette Cooper. Which is actually misogynistic rather than this crap. There were clips of it again today because of this nonsense.

Equal nonsense of course, is the sight of Corbyn refuting the claims while surrounded on all sides by strategically placed female MPs. Farcical.

May is a stupid woman to be doing what she’s doing. Corbyn is a stupid man to be doing what he’s doing. They are surrounded by stupid people. Move on.


Meanwhile Rome burns...
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The Countdown begins. on 20:08 - Dec 19 with 345 viewslondonlisa2001

The Countdown begins. on 20:03 - Dec 19 by LeonWasGod

Meanwhile Rome burns...


With both May and Corbyn chucking on lighter fluid to attempt to protect their own sorry backsides.

It’s genuinely abhorrent how both of them are behaving.
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The Countdown begins. on 20:08 - Dec 19 with 349 viewsLeonWasGod

The Countdown begins. on 20:02 - Dec 19 by PozuelosSideys

In the context of the situation too - stupid woman makes far more sense than stupid people.. he was clearly ruffled by her pantomime thing.

Dunno why theres so much hoohaa about it though. He should know better given the climate at the moment about gender equality. Just apologise and move on ffs


This. All of it.
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The Countdown begins. on 20:12 - Dec 19 with 343 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

So he said stupid people



There’s some stupid people about
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The Countdown begins. on 20:15 - Dec 19 with 337 viewsHumpty

The Countdown begins. on 19:58 - Dec 19 by londonlisa2001

Innit. It wasn’t long ago there was a Tory MP mouthing ‘bitch’ at Yvette Cooper. Which is actually misogynistic rather than this crap. There were clips of it again today because of this nonsense.

Equal nonsense of course, is the sight of Corbyn refuting the claims while surrounded on all sides by strategically placed female MPs. Farcical.

May is a stupid woman to be doing what she’s doing. Corbyn is a stupid man to be doing what he’s doing. They are surrounded by stupid people. Move on.


The Tory MP claims he was saying leadership pitch.

Righto.
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The Countdown begins. on 20:16 - Dec 19 with 335 viewsexiledclaseboy

The Countdown begins. on 20:15 - Dec 19 by Humpty

The Tory MP claims he was saying leadership pitch.

Righto.


Clearly a job for a lip reader.

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