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Scenes from Catalonia 10:38 - Oct 1 with 30045 viewsKilkennyjack

Dreadful.

BBC not too keen in reporting it though.

Spain has just lost the right to govern.

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Scenes from Catalonia on 10:43 - Oct 1 with 15876 viewsEilian

do you have a link?
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Scenes from Catalonia on 10:46 - Oct 1 with 15863 viewswhoflungdung

Maybe the Catalans will take up arms ,as your heroes did.

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Scenes from Catalonia on 10:49 - Oct 1 with 15858 viewsmagicdaps10

The powers and a bunch of Republicans.....was never going to be peaceful!!

In all honestly, what do the catalonians believe they will achieve or gain if they go Solo?
I am all for people wanting their independence but I for one would not ever support Wales going solo.....Catalonian people are making a silly choice, we have seen it so many times down the years.

Before any dumb wit comments, it is a total opposite to brexit.....chalk and cheese.

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Scenes from Catalonia on 10:50 - Oct 1 with 15854 viewsmagicdaps10

Scenes from Catalonia on 10:46 - Oct 1 by whoflungdung

Maybe the Catalans will take up arms ,as your heroes did.


Dont go there, strong links to Ireland me.........country is a complete mess

BUT

Ireland are great at covering things up from a distance.

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Scenes from Catalonia on 10:58 - Oct 1 with 15832 viewswhoflungdung

Catalans clearly cover the poor areas of Spain and feel Madrid is ripping them off.

Catalonia suffered under Franco big time and scars clearly still there.


Civil war is not what Spain needs


This would be like Cardiff holding a referendum for Welsh independence without being sanctioned by Westminster from where we are ruled.


If you want to change rules that badly then Arms seems inevitable .


It's a nasty situation .

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Scenes from Catalonia on 11:01 - Oct 1 with 15824 viewsHighjack

Apart from all the massive articles on their website and mentioning it on every news bulletin for the last week and a half the BBC are completely ignoring this.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Scenes from Catalonia on 11:07 - Oct 1 with 15801 viewswhoflungdung

This has serious implications as the Basques would also want to break away .


It's like SE England ,the richest area,wanting to break away from UK

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Scenes from Catalonia on 11:10 - Oct 1 with 15792 viewsexiledclaseboy

Scenes from Catalonia on 11:01 - Oct 1 by Highjack

Apart from all the massive articles on their website and mentioning it on every news bulletin for the last week and a half the BBC are completely ignoring this.


Yup. Main story on the BBC and has been since last night. Weird thing for KkJ to say.

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Scenes from Catalonia on 11:13 - Oct 1 with 15779 viewsexiledclaseboy

Scenes from Catalonia on 10:46 - Oct 1 by whoflungdung

Maybe the Catalans will take up arms ,as your heroes did.


The only ones who seem to be taking up arms so far are the Spanish police.

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Scenes from Catalonia on 11:16 - Oct 1 with 15770 viewsHighjack

Scenes from Catalonia on 10:58 - Oct 1 by whoflungdung

Catalans clearly cover the poor areas of Spain and feel Madrid is ripping them off.

Catalonia suffered under Franco big time and scars clearly still there.


Civil war is not what Spain needs


This would be like Cardiff holding a referendum for Welsh independence without being sanctioned by Westminster from where we are ruled.


If you want to change rules that badly then Arms seems inevitable .


It's a nasty situation .


It's a stupid situation on every side. The way this referendum has been organised is utterly shambolic and completely one sided. Any Catalonian who would vote against independence (they are in a large majority if polls are correct) has to fight their way through walls of angry protestors to vote. Voters can print out their own ballot papers and go to any polling station, there's very little checks so voters can presumably vote numerous times. The police and Spanish authorities seem to be ridiculously heavy handed which isn't helping their cause either.

But on the plus side Kilkennyjack will be delighted that Catalonia will be remaining in the EU now.
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The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Scenes from Catalonia on 11:16 - Oct 1 with 15764 viewswhoflungdung

I'm looking a the bigger picture Andrew.

There has always been contempt for Madrid post Franco .


This could lead to break up of Spain.


It's serious situation but frankly to have Guardia acting like this on Government s orders is shockingly stupid

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Scenes from Catalonia on 11:29 - Oct 1 with 15724 viewsMo_Wives

Scenes from Catalonia on 10:43 - Oct 1 by Eilian

do you have a link?


Yes, here is one from the...ah...BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41457238



Edit - Just seen HighJack and Easy B have mentioned BBC coverage.
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Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Scenes from Catalonia on 11:30 - Oct 1 with 15723 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Scenes from Catalonia on 11:13 - Oct 1 by exiledclaseboy

The only ones who seem to be taking up arms so far are the Spanish police.


Hail the fire fighters



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Scenes from Catalonia on 11:39 - Oct 1 with 15704 viewsWarwickHunt

Scenes from Catalonia on 11:10 - Oct 1 by exiledclaseboy

Yup. Main story on the BBC and has been since last night. Weird thing for KkJ to say.


You have to make allowances for fûckwits.
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Scenes from Catalonia on 11:53 - Oct 1 with 15673 viewsraynor94

Kilkenny made the same claim about the BBC and Catalonia a week ago, to repeat it again is somewhat baffling

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game

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Scenes from Catalonia on 12:04 - Oct 1 with 15643 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Scenes from Catalonia on 10:58 - Oct 1 by whoflungdung

Catalans clearly cover the poor areas of Spain and feel Madrid is ripping them off.

Catalonia suffered under Franco big time and scars clearly still there.


Civil war is not what Spain needs


This would be like Cardiff holding a referendum for Welsh independence without being sanctioned by Westminster from where we are ruled.


If you want to change rules that badly then Arms seems inevitable .


It's a nasty situation .


Catalonia is one of the richest and heavily industrialised regions of Spain.

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Scenes from Catalonia on 12:04 - Oct 1 with 15643 viewsMo_Wives

Scenes from Catalonia on 11:39 - Oct 1 by WarwickHunt

You have to make allowances for fûckwits.


Cardiff city and Neil Warnock are doing well this year. Unfortunately, Wales Online don't seem too keen to cover it.


Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Scenes from Catalonia on 12:06 - Oct 1 with 15634 viewsexiledclaseboy

Scenes from Catalonia on 12:04 - Oct 1 by Joe_bradshaw

Catalonia is one of the richest and heavily industrialised regions of Spain.


And pays more in taxes than it gets back in spending. Read that somewhere the other day, can’t remember where.

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Scenes from Catalonia on 12:18 - Oct 1 with 15611 viewswhoflungdung

I know

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Scenes from Catalonia on 12:33 - Oct 1 with 15595 viewsNeath_Jack

It's all over the front page, you give me...

Oh, not that Catatonia.

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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Scenes from Catalonia on 12:37 - Oct 1 with 15582 viewsWarwickHunt

Scenes from Catalonia on 12:06 - Oct 1 by exiledclaseboy

And pays more in taxes than it gets back in spending. Read that somewhere the other day, can’t remember where.


The Kilkenny Chronicle?
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Scenes from Catalonia on 12:43 - Oct 1 with 15569 viewsMo_Wives

Scenes from Catalonia on 12:33 - Oct 1 by Neath_Jack

It's all over the front page, you give me...

Oh, not that Catatonia.



Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Scenes from Catalonia on 12:45 - Oct 1 with 15557 viewsKilkennyjack

Scenes from Catalonia on 11:39 - Oct 1 by WarwickHunt

You have to make allowances for fûckwits.


I do try to make allowances for you, but its true that you cant educate pork.

So ....peaceful civilians seeking to vote are phyically hit by riot police with batons.
Will you join the civilised adult world in condemning it ?
And thats the only point here.

The videos on twitter are simply shocking.

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Scenes from Catalonia on 12:53 - Oct 1 with 15539 viewsKilkennyjack

Scenes from Catalonia on 11:10 - Oct 1 by exiledclaseboy

Yup. Main story on the BBC and has been since last night. Weird thing for KkJ to say.


Well i guess the fact its been going on for a month or more, and the beep picks it up last night probably makes my point.

If this was Russia or an Arab nation acting like Spain, then the BBC would rightly have been all over it. Human rights abuse etc etc

Spain’s approach to this is that of a bully. Its really that simple.

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Scenes from Catalonia on 13:20 - Oct 1 with 15479 viewsswan85

Scenes from Catalonia on 11:07 - Oct 1 by whoflungdung

This has serious implications as the Basques would also want to break away .


It's like SE England ,the richest area,wanting to break away from UK


With respect it's nothing like that at all.
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